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	<title>Comments on: Retirement Plans Galore: 401(a), 401(k), 403(b), 457, SEP, SIMPLE</title>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/retirement-plans-galore-401a-401k-403b-457-sep-simple.html#comment-7921</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, he is not an owner at all, he works for the city owned electric utility. Thank you for letting me know, all the info out there seems to cover when to start taking it, but couldn&#039;t find any info about people who don &#039;t plan on retiring or who are still working at that age. Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, he is not an owner at all, he works for the city owned electric utility. Thank you for letting me know, all the info out there seems to cover when to start taking it, but couldn&#8217;t find any info about people who don &#8216;t plan on retiring or who are still working at that age. Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: TFB</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/retirement-plans-galore-401a-401k-403b-457-sep-simple.html#comment-7916</link>
		<dc:creator>TFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 03:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Janet - For an employer sponsored retirement plan, RMD can wait until he retires. From the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.irs.gov/retirement/article/0,,id=96989,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FAQs from the IRS&lt;/a&gt;:

&quot;Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) generally are minimum amounts that a retirement plan account owner must withdraw annually starting with the year that he or she reaches 70 ½ years of age &lt;b&gt;or, if later, the year in which he or she retires&lt;/b&gt;. However, if the retirement plan account is an IRA or the account owner is a 5% owner of the business sponsoring the retirement plan, the RMDs must begin once the account holder is age 70 ½, regardless of whether he or she is retired.&quot;

I&#039;m assuming he&#039;s not a 5% owner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Janet &#8211; For an employer sponsored retirement plan, RMD can wait until he retires. From the <a href="http://www.irs.gov/retirement/article/0,,id=96989,00.html" rel="nofollow">FAQs from the IRS</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) generally are minimum amounts that a retirement plan account owner must withdraw annually starting with the year that he or she reaches 70 ½ years of age <b>or, if later, the year in which he or she retires</b>. However, if the retirement plan account is an IRA or the account owner is a 5% owner of the business sponsoring the retirement plan, the RMDs must begin once the account holder is age 70 ½, regardless of whether he or she is retired.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming he&#8217;s not a 5% owner.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 02:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not able to find the question I need answered anywhere, even my accountant didn&#039;t know.  My husband is 71 and will not retire, he has a 401a employer plan at work, the turbo tax software is telling me he needs to take an rmd of this plan since he is 70 plus, but we don&#039;t know if this applies to employer sponsored, as he would have to retire to take his pension.  Even the plan administrator dosen t know, as most people seem to retire a 55 from his job. We do take rmd from his trad ira and the 457k but dont know about the 401a. Do you have any idea? I cant find it on the irs website either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not able to find the question I need answered anywhere, even my accountant didn&#8217;t know.  My husband is 71 and will not retire, he has a 401a employer plan at work, the turbo tax software is telling me he needs to take an rmd of this plan since he is 70 plus, but we don&#8217;t know if this applies to employer sponsored, as he would have to retire to take his pension.  Even the plan administrator dosen t know, as most people seem to retire a 55 from his job. We do take rmd from his trad ira and the 457k but dont know about the 401a. Do you have any idea? I cant find it on the irs website either.</p>
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		<title>By: TFB</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/retirement-plans-galore-401a-401k-403b-457-sep-simple.html#comment-7878</link>
		<dc:creator>TFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jason - The $49k (now $50k in 2012) is per-employer. So it comes down whether the non-profit and the state are two employers. If you have two jobs and you are getting two W-2&#039;s with different employer tax IDs, they are two employers. A reference? Internal Revenue Code &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/usc_sec_26_00000415----000-.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;section 415(f)(1)(B)&lt;/a&gt;: 

&quot;(B) all defined contribution plans (whether or not terminated) of an employer are to be treated as one defined contribution plan.&quot;

Note it says &quot;an employer.&quot; The employer is responsible for the annual addition limit. One employer is not supposed to know or track what other employers are doing to the same person. So each employer gets its own limit.

Compare that to Code &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/usc_sec_26_00000402----000-.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;section 402(g)(1)(A)&lt;/a&gt; for employee elective deferrals ($16,500 in 2011; $17,000 in 2012):

&quot;Notwithstanding subsections (e)(3) and (h)(1)(B), the elective deferrals of any individual for any taxable year shall be included in such individual’s gross income to the extent the amount of such deferrals for the taxable year exceeds the applicable dollar amount.&quot;

Note it says &quot;any individual&quot; which means across all employers. Any individual person knows how much he or she is contributing to which plans. The individual is responsible to stay under the elective deferral limit across all plans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason &#8211; The $49k (now $50k in 2012) is per-employer. So it comes down whether the non-profit and the state are two employers. If you have two jobs and you are getting two W-2&#8242;s with different employer tax IDs, they are two employers. A reference? Internal Revenue Code <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/usc_sec_26_00000415----000-.html" rel="nofollow">section 415(f)(1)(B)</a>: </p>
<p>&#8220;(B) all defined contribution plans (whether or not terminated) of an employer are to be treated as one defined contribution plan.&#8221;</p>
<p>Note it says &#8220;an employer.&#8221; The employer is responsible for the annual addition limit. One employer is not supposed to know or track what other employers are doing to the same person. So each employer gets its own limit.</p>
<p>Compare that to Code <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/usc_sec_26_00000402----000-.html" rel="nofollow">section 402(g)(1)(A)</a> for employee elective deferrals ($16,500 in 2011; $17,000 in 2012):</p>
<p>&#8220;Notwithstanding subsections (e)(3) and (h)(1)(B), the elective deferrals of any individual for any taxable year shall be included in such individual’s gross income to the extent the amount of such deferrals for the taxable year exceeds the applicable dollar amount.&#8221;</p>
<p>Note it says &#8220;any individual&#8221; which means across all employers. Any individual person knows how much he or she is contributing to which plans. The individual is responsible to stay under the elective deferral limit across all plans.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/retirement-plans-galore-401a-401k-403b-457-sep-simple.html#comment-7877</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 04:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two jobs, one with the state and one with a state affliated non-profit. The non-profit has an employer 401(a) contribution of $49,000. Some of my co-workers with the same employment situation also take part in voluntary deferral to the state&#039;s 401(k). Half of us think this is wrong, the other half are counting it as two separate employers and say we could do both the 401(a) and 401(k) [to the sum of roughly $64,000 per year]. We wrote the IRS several times and have not gotten a ruling. Do you know? Do you have a reference? (State of Kansas). Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two jobs, one with the state and one with a state affliated non-profit. The non-profit has an employer 401(a) contribution of $49,000. Some of my co-workers with the same employment situation also take part in voluntary deferral to the state&#8217;s 401(k). Half of us think this is wrong, the other half are counting it as two separate employers and say we could do both the 401(a) and 401(k) [to the sum of roughly $64,000 per year]. We wrote the IRS several times and have not gotten a ruling. Do you know? Do you have a reference? (State of Kansas). Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: TFB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joy - Yes I would think an employee&#039;s contribution to a 401a plan should not be included in box 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joy &#8211; Yes I would think an employee&#8217;s contribution to a 401a plan should not be included in box 1.</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am the Clerk for the CIty and I have a question that the IRS and our retirement company is not giving me a straight answe-I need to get W2&#039;s out and have a question reference to 401a retirement. The city and the employees put into this retirement fund, so box 12 on the W2 should have the amount the employee had deducted, should this not be subtracted from total gross wages in box1 (wages, tips, other compensation) because we are pre taxed in payroll. Thank you for your help!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the Clerk for the CIty and I have a question that the IRS and our retirement company is not giving me a straight answe-I need to get W2&#8242;s out and have a question reference to 401a retirement. The city and the employees put into this retirement fund, so box 12 on the W2 should have the amount the employee had deducted, should this not be subtracted from total gross wages in box1 (wages, tips, other compensation) because we are pre taxed in payroll. Thank you for your help!!!</p>
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		<title>By: andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what you are saying is that the 401(a) is not mine to take but the employers (company) money they are puting in my account?  To receive this money i have to switch over to a 401(k) plan? This is to confusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what you are saying is that the 401(a) is not mine to take but the employers (company) money they are puting in my account?  To receive this money i have to switch over to a 401(k) plan? This is to confusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 14:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for a municipality and have had a 457 plan that recently changed to a 401A plan. I contribute 8% of my salary to the plan and it is matched by my employer. Am I better off with this plan or should I change back to the previous 457 plan which is an option. I am 61 yrs old and plan on taking an early retirement at 62.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for a municipality and have had a 457 plan that recently changed to a 401A plan. I contribute 8% of my salary to the plan and it is matched by my employer. Am I better off with this plan or should I change back to the previous 457 plan which is an option. I am 61 yrs old and plan on taking an early retirement at 62.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 04:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you again.  This is a great site with very helpful information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you again.  This is a great site with very helpful information.</p>
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