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		<title>By: TFB</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/rsu-sell-to-cover-deconstructed.html#comment-8464</link>
		<dc:creator>TFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 05:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meg - Sorry, I don&#039;t know what&#039;s going on with TurboTax. Not in a mood to work as free tech support for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meg &#8211; Sorry, I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s going on with TurboTax. Not in a mood to work as free tech support for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/rsu-sell-to-cover-deconstructed.html#comment-8463</link>
		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi TBF,

I am getting confused in TurboTax. I have RSUs that vested in 2 lots. The first lot I got 83 shares and sold 36 to cover tax, and in lot 2 I got 20 shares and sold 9 to cover tax. I reported both of the sell to cover transactions as Investment Sales in TurboTax. I entered the sales in manually and chose &quot;RSU&quot; as the type of investment. Then, I was asked to specify which vest lot I sold the shares from. For example, in the instance where I sold 36 shares, I had to say that I sold the shares from the vest lot where I got 83 shares; but it&#039;s the same lot that I&#039;m reporting the taxes sold on! Is that the right way to do it? I also enter new lot information for every single RSU Investment Sale that I create in TurboTax.

Is entering Investment Sales in TurboTax equivalent to filling out a Schedule D? Do I need to report the total number of shares I was granted anywhere besides in the &quot;vest lot information&quot; section for a specific Investment Sale?

After I enter all my investment sales, TurboTax shows me the &quot;Your Employee Stock Plan Results&quot; page and shows me an amount calculated which is 3x the amount listed in box 14 of my W2. How is it calculating this amount? What have I done wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi TBF,</p>
<p>I am getting confused in TurboTax. I have RSUs that vested in 2 lots. The first lot I got 83 shares and sold 36 to cover tax, and in lot 2 I got 20 shares and sold 9 to cover tax. I reported both of the sell to cover transactions as Investment Sales in TurboTax. I entered the sales in manually and chose &#8220;RSU&#8221; as the type of investment. Then, I was asked to specify which vest lot I sold the shares from. For example, in the instance where I sold 36 shares, I had to say that I sold the shares from the vest lot where I got 83 shares; but it&#8217;s the same lot that I&#8217;m reporting the taxes sold on! Is that the right way to do it? I also enter new lot information for every single RSU Investment Sale that I create in TurboTax.</p>
<p>Is entering Investment Sales in TurboTax equivalent to filling out a Schedule D? Do I need to report the total number of shares I was granted anywhere besides in the &#8220;vest lot information&#8221; section for a specific Investment Sale?</p>
<p>After I enter all my investment sales, TurboTax shows me the &#8220;Your Employee Stock Plan Results&#8221; page and shows me an amount calculated which is 3x the amount listed in box 14 of my W2. How is it calculating this amount? What have I done wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Caryn</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/rsu-sell-to-cover-deconstructed.html#comment-8443</link>
		<dc:creator>Caryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 20:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! This was the most helpful advice I found thus far re: reporting RSA sell-to-cover taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! This was the most helpful advice I found thus far re: reporting RSA sell-to-cover taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: TFB</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/rsu-sell-to-cover-deconstructed.html#comment-8386</link>
		<dc:creator>TFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 04:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben - As I wrote several times in these comments already, use &quot;Enter on a Spreadsheet&quot; in TurboTax, not the EasyGuide. Try it. It&#039;s much easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben &#8211; As I wrote several times in these comments already, use &#8220;Enter on a Spreadsheet&#8221; in TurboTax, not the EasyGuide. Try it. It&#8217;s much easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/rsu-sell-to-cover-deconstructed.html#comment-8385</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 02:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TFB, Your comments are greatly appreciated.  I want to make sure I&#039;ve followed the threads above correctly.
 
(1) If I get say 1000 RSUs this year @ $10 and the company witholds 100shares  for tax, 900 are deposited in my account. The totals show as $10K Income and $1K tax already on my W2.  If I do not sell any there is nothing for me to do. Correct?

(2) If I sell 100 shares in the same year at say $11.  Then I need to understand the cost basis. which is 100*$10 or $1K so I will realize a gain of ($11-10)*100=$100. TT asks how many were granted, If you put in the original 1K RSUs looks like you will be double taxed.  If instead if you put in (in this case)  200 RSUs noting 100 were for taxes it leaves the 100 shares to be used as the cost basis.  Is this line of thinking correct?

(3) If you sell additional 150 shares in a following tax year at $12, then in this case you don&#039;t have to put in the number of shares sold to cover taxes since they were paid the previous year.  In this case I would enter 150 shares with zero entered to cover taxes, using the sale of $12 plus the date of vest from the previous year with the original  $10 price paid to calculate cost basis.  Is this last one correct?

Thanks in advance for your response</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TFB, Your comments are greatly appreciated.  I want to make sure I&#8217;ve followed the threads above correctly.</p>
<p>(1) If I get say 1000 RSUs this year @ $10 and the company witholds 100shares  for tax, 900 are deposited in my account. The totals show as $10K Income and $1K tax already on my W2.  If I do not sell any there is nothing for me to do. Correct?</p>
<p>(2) If I sell 100 shares in the same year at say $11.  Then I need to understand the cost basis. which is 100*$10 or $1K so I will realize a gain of ($11-10)*100=$100. TT asks how many were granted, If you put in the original 1K RSUs looks like you will be double taxed.  If instead if you put in (in this case)  200 RSUs noting 100 were for taxes it leaves the 100 shares to be used as the cost basis.  Is this line of thinking correct?</p>
<p>(3) If you sell additional 150 shares in a following tax year at $12, then in this case you don&#8217;t have to put in the number of shares sold to cover taxes since they were paid the previous year.  In this case I would enter 150 shares with zero entered to cover taxes, using the sale of $12 plus the date of vest from the previous year with the original  $10 price paid to calculate cost basis.  Is this last one correct?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for your response</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/rsu-sell-to-cover-deconstructed.html#comment-8292</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 05:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much!</p>
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		<title>By: TFB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scott - Yes, but it&#039;s ($30 - $10) * 100 = $2,000, not * 200.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scott &#8211; Yes, but it&#8217;s ($30 &#8211; $10) * 100 = $2,000, not * 200.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/rsu-sell-to-cover-deconstructed.html#comment-8273</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TFB, I cannot figure out my situation. For example, I have 100 RSU vested at $10.00 in 2009, the company withheld 40% ($400) as tax, on my w-2 of year 2009 I have $1000 as income and $400 as tax withhold. My RSU broker account still has 100 RSU shares. In 2011 I sold these 100 shares at $30, so how to calculate my gain and tax? My think it is ($30-$10)*200=$2000. This $2000 should be my long term gain and the tax should base on this $2000. Am I right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TFB, I cannot figure out my situation. For example, I have 100 RSU vested at $10.00 in 2009, the company withheld 40% ($400) as tax, on my w-2 of year 2009 I have $1000 as income and $400 as tax withhold. My RSU broker account still has 100 RSU shares. In 2011 I sold these 100 shares at $30, so how to calculate my gain and tax? My think it is ($30-$10)*200=$2000. This $2000 should be my long term gain and the tax should base on this $2000. Am I right?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/rsu-sell-to-cover-deconstructed.html#comment-8169</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 20:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TFB

talked to our plan administrator and turns out it is indeed Net Issuance....my questions are now answered, thanks!</description>
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<p>talked to our plan administrator and turns out it is indeed Net Issuance&#8230;.my questions are now answered, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/rsu-sell-to-cover-deconstructed.html#comment-8126</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 17:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for replaying so quickly...I was overwhelmed by all the 1099-[insert letter here]s and by the pains of reconciling sales of discounted company stocks purchased in ~5 different lots and that went through a custodian change without the transactional records transferred...so I can&#039;t say for sure!  But I do not see one that seems to reflect the share amount or date of the grant.

The &quot;Restricted Award Transaction Advice&quot; notice from the account servicer lists the line-items as &quot;Shares Withheld for Taxes&quot;, &quot;Total Net Shares Issued&quot;, and &quot;Total Net Cash Proceeds&quot;...maybe we use a the Net Issuance you described and not Sell-to-Cover?  I&#039;ve heard something about the company using stock they hold in our corporate treasury for purposes of meeting stock grants, so perhaps they are netting it out, transferring shares to me, and paying the tax portion with company cash?  This stuff gives me headaches!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for replaying so quickly&#8230;I was overwhelmed by all the 1099-[insert letter here]s and by the pains of reconciling sales of discounted company stocks purchased in ~5 different lots and that went through a custodian change without the transactional records transferred&#8230;so I can&#8217;t say for sure!  But I do not see one that seems to reflect the share amount or date of the grant.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Restricted Award Transaction Advice&#8221; notice from the account servicer lists the line-items as &#8220;Shares Withheld for Taxes&#8221;, &#8220;Total Net Shares Issued&#8221;, and &#8220;Total Net Cash Proceeds&#8221;&#8230;maybe we use a the Net Issuance you described and not Sell-to-Cover?  I&#8217;ve heard something about the company using stock they hold in our corporate treasury for purposes of meeting stock grants, so perhaps they are netting it out, transferring shares to me, and paying the tax portion with company cash?  This stuff gives me headaches!</p>
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