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		<title>By: TFB</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/the-average-daily-balance-mystery.html#comment-4826</link>
		<dc:creator>TFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 07:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KS - I&#039;m so sorry you still don&#039;t understand the basic principle of interest. If your friend paid after the statement close date (but before the due date), there are days between the statement close date and the date the payment is received during which he was still using money from the bank. If you use other people&#039;s money, you pay interest. It has nothing to do with average daily balance. 

Carrying a balance is a consenting adult&#039;s choice. If it&#039;s a fact of life, so is paying interest on days when money is borrowed. Here&#039;s a simple form you can fill out for the calculation:

(1) Statement closed on ____________. Balance = ________.
(2) Payment received on ____________.
(3) # Days balance was outstanding = __________.
(4) Interest = __________ (Balance * APR / 365 * # of days)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KS &#8211; I&#8217;m so sorry you still don&#8217;t understand the basic principle of interest. If your friend paid after the statement close date (but before the due date), there are days between the statement close date and the date the payment is received during which he was still using money from the bank. If you use other people&#8217;s money, you pay interest. It has nothing to do with average daily balance. </p>
<p>Carrying a balance is a consenting adult&#8217;s choice. If it&#8217;s a fact of life, so is paying interest on days when money is borrowed. Here&#8217;s a simple form you can fill out for the calculation:</p>
<p>(1) Statement closed on ____________. Balance = ________.<br />
(2) Payment received on ____________.<br />
(3) # Days balance was outstanding = __________.<br />
(4) Interest = __________ (Balance * APR / 365 * # of days)</p>
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		<title>By: KS</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/the-average-daily-balance-mystery.html#comment-4825</link>
		<dc:creator>KS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 06:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TFB,

Don&#039;t carry a balance, you say?  According the the Federal Reserves 2007 Survey of Consumer Finances,  46% of the Americans surveyed have credit card balances.  So, where do you get of saying, &quot;enough said&quot; regarding telling people to not carry a balance?  People carry balances and that&#039;s a fact of life, unfortunately for those balance carriers, but, fortunately, for banks, a system has been designed and concocted to exploit those balances.  People need to carry balances for various reasons, good and bad, banks know that, so they hire mathematicians to create better ways to exploit those people and nickel and dime them to death.  A very close friend of mine made his last credit card payment, on time, to one of these scam artist multi-billion dollar bank loan-sharks, and as soon as the check cleared (he called his bank to check everyday until it did), he then called to check his credit card balance which was now ZERO.  But thanks to AVERAGE DAILY BALANCE, they tried to scam another $9.00 out of him on the next statement he received.  So, basically they took a balance amount that NO LONGER EXISTED and averaged it with ZERO, and somehow came up with $9.00.  Average daily balanced is flawed and it is a problem.  Enough said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TFB,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t carry a balance, you say?  According the the Federal Reserves 2007 Survey of Consumer Finances,  46% of the Americans surveyed have credit card balances.  So, where do you get of saying, &#8220;enough said&#8221; regarding telling people to not carry a balance?  People carry balances and that&#8217;s a fact of life, unfortunately for those balance carriers, but, fortunately, for banks, a system has been designed and concocted to exploit those balances.  People need to carry balances for various reasons, good and bad, banks know that, so they hire mathematicians to create better ways to exploit those people and nickel and dime them to death.  A very close friend of mine made his last credit card payment, on time, to one of these scam artist multi-billion dollar bank loan-sharks, and as soon as the check cleared (he called his bank to check everyday until it did), he then called to check his credit card balance which was now ZERO.  But thanks to AVERAGE DAILY BALANCE, they tried to scam another $9.00 out of him on the next statement he received.  So, basically they took a balance amount that NO LONGER EXISTED and averaged it with ZERO, and somehow came up with $9.00.  Average daily balanced is flawed and it is a problem.  Enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: Wai Yip Tung</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/the-average-daily-balance-mystery.html#comment-3901</link>
		<dc:creator>Wai Yip Tung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he cannot come up with a different formula, it is another reason he has no ground to complain of being rip off.

Getting interest free loan for the grace period is nice. But it is 21 days only and it only applies to new purchases. Having a &quot;clean card&quot; is smart. Other than that it is trivial amount of money that hardly worth strategizing. People should simply focus on paying off the credit card loan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he cannot come up with a different formula, it is another reason he has no ground to complain of being rip off.</p>
<p>Getting interest free loan for the grace period is nice. But it is 21 days only and it only applies to new purchases. Having a &#8220;clean card&#8221; is smart. Other than that it is trivial amount of money that hardly worth strategizing. People should simply focus on paying off the credit card loan.</p>
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		<title>By: TFB</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/the-average-daily-balance-mystery.html#comment-3900</link>
		<dc:creator>TFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wai Yip Tung - No, but I have a feeling he&#039;d like to see no interest for new purchases paid by the due date, regardless whether the cardholder paid the previous month&#039;s bill in full or pay this month&#039;s bill in full. Right now one has to meet both conditions to get an interest-free loan. 

In the following section the author suggested a &quot;clean card&quot; strategy: put all new charges one intends to pay in full on a different card. That&#039;ll maximize the interest-free loan for the cardholder. If the cardholder always gets an interest-free loan for all new purchases, the &quot;clean card&quot; strategy wouldn&#039;t be necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wai Yip Tung &#8211; No, but I have a feeling he&#8217;d like to see no interest for new purchases paid by the due date, regardless whether the cardholder paid the previous month&#8217;s bill in full or pay this month&#8217;s bill in full. Right now one has to meet both conditions to get an interest-free loan. </p>
<p>In the following section the author suggested a &#8220;clean card&#8221; strategy: put all new charges one intends to pay in full on a different card. That&#8217;ll maximize the interest-free loan for the cardholder. If the cardholder always gets an interest-free loan for all new purchases, the &#8220;clean card&#8221; strategy wouldn&#8217;t be necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Wai Yip Tung</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/the-average-daily-balance-mystery.html#comment-3899</link>
		<dc:creator>Wai Yip Tung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has the author come up with a &quot;fairer&quot; formula the bank should be using?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has the author come up with a &#8220;fairer&#8221; formula the bank should be using?</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://thefinancebuff.com/the-average-daily-balance-mystery.html#comment-3898</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sullivan must not realize that you can pay your credit card at any time.  You don&#039;t have to wait until your due date and keep watching the interest pile up.  If you charge something on the 5th, you can make a payment for that purchase on the 10th and only pay 5 days of interest.  I&#039;ve yet to see a bank screw this up.

(Even better, you can pay off your balance every month, and borrow money for free.)

Average daily balance is good for the consumer because the interest only compounds monthly (from the date it is charged on the account).  The bank could easily compound daily or continuously and charge you even more interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sullivan must not realize that you can pay your credit card at any time.  You don&#8217;t have to wait until your due date and keep watching the interest pile up.  If you charge something on the 5th, you can make a payment for that purchase on the 10th and only pay 5 days of interest.  I&#8217;ve yet to see a bank screw this up.</p>
<p>(Even better, you can pay off your balance every month, and borrow money for free.)</p>
<p>Average daily balance is good for the consumer because the interest only compounds monthly (from the date it is charged on the account).  The bank could easily compound daily or continuously and charge you even more interest.</p>
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